
“Race to Call the Bottom”
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Thank you for your article about the absurdity of trying to predict a bottom of the market and how every media outlet is searching for “experts” to give them a number the market is going to bottom out at. The entire concept that a person is able to accurately predict a number at which the stock market will bottom out, even within 100 points, is asinine. There are so many factors that control and direct the stock market. Some are measureable, others are not. I can understand how analysts arrive at their estimates and their importance to investors, but in the end, they are only estimates. For a news outlet to take those numbers and quote them as if they are an assertion of fact by that analyst is just irresponsible. I especially liked your example of Peter Boockvar being quoted in the New York Times as believing the Dow would bottom at 5,000, despite the fact that he had really only come up with a range of 5,000 to 7,000 in which he could see the market reaching its bottom. His quote is especially meaningful, when he says, “No one’s smart enough to answer the question as to where we’ll be a year from now. I think it’s silly to pick a number.” Is this fact such a difficult concept to grasp? As you say yourself, “The track record of economists and strategists is notoriously poor, no one ever consistently gets the year out forecasts correct several years in a row – it’s just totally random.” Do reporters and analysts actually believe that they are going to be correct when they throw out these seemingly arbitrary numbers of where the market will bottom, or are they only creating these numbers for others to read so that they can get some publicity or sell copies of their articles?
All in all, thank you again for this commentary on the folly of market forecasts, especially the narrow forecasts we have been seeing lately. In the future, I would love to see more discussion of the extreme forecasts you mention earlier in your article or a continued discussion of other forecasts for this particular market. Really, all an analyst can do is give a broad range of numbers he or she believes the market will drop to or give an opinion as to whether the current market is at its bottom at the time. I believe these specific forecasts to oftentimes be little more than publicity tools, yet people will continue to look upon them as fact until more people like you come out and call them out for what they are: overly speculative educated guesses.
“The Economy’s Worst is Still Ahead of Us”
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Thank you for your interesting piece about how the market has not reached its bottom. It is interesting to see how often Wall Street is dominated by a group think mentality. I feel that all it takes for a temporary spike in the stock market is for a handful of analysts to come out with a positive outlook on the market and everyone else will buy into it. Are these people not supposed to be some of the brightest in the country? Are they incapable of looking at some of these facts and realizing that, although we do not know exactly when the market is going to turn around, it probably is not at this exact moment? Looking at the past week, it is shocking to see how irrational the market has been. Consumer confidence fell to an all time low (almost 15 points below the Street’s estimate) and yet the market rallied nearly 900 points. Additionally, the United States GDP declined for the first time since 9/11 and real consumer spending fell for the first time since 1991, and the most since 1980. I am not sure which part of this news indicates to investors that the market has bottomed out.
If what you and Roubini say is true, and that hundreds of hedge funds will go belly up and the Option ARM loans result in a second financial crisis, those optimists are in for a rude awakening. On that note, I wish you had gone into greater detail about why the hedge funds are going to fail or when the Option ARM loans are going to begin resetting. The prediction that the hedge funds will go belly up loses some of its credence when you do not back it with any reasoning, only repercussions. You explained the Option ARM loans well, but by not including an idea of when to expect that crisis to begin, all you did is raise my blood pressure. However, those two do not take away from the fact that this was an eye opening piece about where the market has the potential to go. I am hoping none of your predictions come true, but look forward to continuing reading your blog in the future.
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I really with this argument
Thank you for this informative post. With the economy on everyone’s mind right now, it is refreshing to hear a rational argument for the craziness that is going on right now. Gathering the facts together regarding the month of October, and how it was on both the “Worst Months” and “Best Weeks” list simultaneously. Especially with that information in mind, I agree with you that it is too difficult to predict what is going to happen, and that “the ultimate judgment is made by the stock market.” One of the most compelling things that you said was, “Are these people not supposed to be some of the brightest in the country? Are they incapable of looking at some of these facts and realizing that, although we do not know exactly when the market is going to turn around, it probably is not at this exact moment?” It is amazing how the slightest downturn or upturn can elicit so many responses from those whose job it is to predict accurately.
For your responses to the others blogs, I appreciated how you chose two posts that were similar, but took opposite stances. In doing so, you add to your own argument that the market is crazy right now, and that there are widely varying opinions. One thing that you could have elaborated on to improve your post would be to include how the market now is in comparison to other times. You point out the absuridty of October, but have little information regarding the months leading up to October. I think that it would have been good supporting information because you’re talking about the market bottoming out, and there is little information to support whether October was just a fluke, or whether the market has been slowly declining with a spike in October. Overall, I think that this was a very rational, informative post, and I am all for being rational. For all of our sakes, I hope that the market has bottomed out, but who knows?
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